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ZgY core duo i core 2 duo 29.10.2007. 17:30 T6246

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......Molim Vas ako neko moze da mi objasni u cemu je razlika....hvala.::)))
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astan Najjednostavnije moguce 29.10.2007. 18:42 #31566

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core duo 32-bit cpu
core 2 duo 64-bit cpu


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DaSickSyst Re: Najjednostavnije moguce 29.10.2007. 20:21 #31571

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:: core duo 32-bit cp
:: core 2 duo 64-bit cp
Ne bash.
Core Duo je takodje 64 bitni procesor kao i SVI procesori sa dva jezgra.Najjednostavnije receno Core Duo je nista drugo nego `ultra stedljivi` Core 2 Duo za laptop recunare.
Da ne bude zabune Intel Core Duo NIJE Intel D(prva generacija Dual Core procesora)


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astan Re: Re: Najjednostavnije moguce 29.10.2007. 20:38 #31573

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Gresis

:: Core Duo je takodje 64 bitni procesor kao i SVI procesori sa dva jezgra.Najjednostavnije receno Core Duo je nista drugo nego `ultra stedljivi` Core 2 Duo za laptop recunare
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DaSickSyst Re: Re: Re: Najjednostavnije moguce 29.10.2007. 20:43 #31574

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:: Gresi
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:: :: Core Duo je takodje 64 bitni procesor kao i SVI procesori sa dva jezgra.Najjednostavnije receno Core Duo je nista drugo nego `ultra stedljivi` Core 2 Duo za laptop recunare
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Intel specifikacija Core Duo procesora:

The Intel® Core Duo processor is the dual-core version of the Intel Pentium® M processor for notebooks. It is part of the new mobile technology offering from Intel code-named Napa. Unlike Intel`s first dual-core designs for desktop PCs, Intel Core Duo is a much more integrated design that shares storage and power management resources within the chip. Here is a quick overview of this new CPU:

Intel`s first dual-core optimized CPU
667 MHz front-side bus
Built on new 65nm technology
Two mobile optimized execution cores in a single processor
Parallel threads executed on separate cores with dedicated CPU resources

Intel will also implement a host of new features into the new Intel Core Duo chip.

Intel Smart Cache - This is an enhanced version of handling the L2 cache from the previous dual-core desktop processors that allows both cores to access the same L2 cache.
Intel Dynamic Power Coordination - This feature coordinates the power states between the two cores, enabling them to each individually step down activity as required.
Intel Digital Media Boost - Digital Media Boost provides enhancements to Gaming, Video Streaming, Digital Music and Photography, as well as other multimedia applications.
Intel Advanced Thermal Manager - New thermal sensors and management technology allows for enhanced accuracy with dual-core optimized thermal management.
Intel Virtualization Technology - This delivers a hardware-assisted robust virtualization and manageability solution.

L2 Cache
The desktop version dual-core Pentium D processor uses separate 1MB cache memory banks dedicated to each core. In the Intel Core Duo processor, a single 2MB cache memory bank is available to both cores, reducing the chance that data will have to leave the chip to be temporarily stored in a system`s main memory bank. This means that one core can store a piece of data in the cache that might be needed later by the other core, and the other core can access that data without having to leave the chip. The larger amount of storage allows Intel Core Duo`s cores to spend less time navigating through the front-side bus and more time executing instructions, which will dramatically improve performance.

The shared cache design also allows Intel to eliminate some of the disadvantages of its front-side bus design, which many analysts see as a bottleneck in the dual-core era. The front-side bus is the connection between the processor and the main system memory via a chipset. On Intel`s chips, this interface is located on the chipset, farther away from the CPU. Intel plans eventually to move to a different design, but in the meantime it has been raising the speed at which its buses move data in order to cope with the increased activity of two processor cores. Intel Core Duo`s two cores will share a single front-side bus running at 667MHz.

Dual-Core processors provide a greater advantage over Hyper-Threading. In Hyper-Threading, parallel threads are executed on a single core using shared resources. With the Dual-Core solution, parallel threads are executed on separate cores with dedicated resources.

Intel Core Duo will use sophisticated power management techniques to make sure that each core is only drawing as much power as it needs to process its instructions. The processor can monitor the application activity passing through each core and allocate power as needed between the cores, reducing power consumption during idle moments. As a result, the battery life of notebooks with the Intel Core Duo and the rest of the Napa platform should exceed that of the current generation of Intel`s Centrino technology.


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kojetoje kakva je ovo konfuzija? 29.10.2007. 21:28 #31576

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Oni koji nisu sigurni bolje da ne ostavljaju poruke jer se tako sire pogresne informacije.
Razlika je vise nego jednostavna za objasniti a iz samog
pitanja se moze zakljucititi da je coveku potreban jednostavan odgovor
dakle:
Core Duo je stariji Intelov dvojezgarni procesor i ima jednu manu: PREGREVANJE
Core 2 Duo je novija varijanta koja je nema problem sa temperaturom tako da se
ovi procesori lako overklokuju i postizu znatno bolje performanse, i vecu stabilnost
u radu.
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Lama Intel 29.10.2007. 22:02 #31580

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astan je ( jedini ) dao tacan odgovor i nije bilo potrebe da se bilo sta dodaje...


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SrAtlas ::: 29.10.2007. 22:11 #31581

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LOOOL!
Podgrejavas atmosferu?m :)))


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viper re 29.10.2007. 22:26 #31585

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Dual Core, ima 2 jezgra (logicno)
Core 2 Duo, ima 2 jezgra, a svako je podeljeno na 2 zasebne jedinice, znaci ima 4 jedinice koje obradjuju podatke i samim tim je brzi :)
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Lama Intel 29.10.2007. 22:52 #31595

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Pazi, Dual Core Pentium D ima dva odvojena jezgra, a kod Core Duo i Core 2 Duo ona su spojena i u direktnoj vezi, zbog cega su ovi procesori brzi.
Ali to nije poenta price, decko je pitao za razliku izmedju C D i C 2 D i astan mu je lepo objasnio.


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Dyca re 29.10.2007. 22:58 #31600

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Mislim da mu je dovoljan podatak da su c2d procesori brzi i do 25% u odnosu na CoreDuo...


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fan Nadjoh negde... 29.10.2007. 23:04 #31603

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Dual core is simply a generic term referring to any processor package with two physical CPUs in one. The Pentium D, Core Duo, Core 2 Duo and Athlon X2 are all current CPUs that have dual cores in one package.

The Pentium D is simply two Pentium 4 Prescott cpus inefficiently paired together and ran as dual core.

The Core Duo is Intel`s first generation dual core processor based upon the Pentium M (a Pentium III-4 hybrid) made mostly for laptops (though a few motherboard manufacturers have released desktop boards supporting the Core Duo CPU), and is much more efficiently than Pentium D.

The Core 2 Duo is Intel`s second generation (hence, Core 2) processor made for desktops and laptops designed from the ground up to be fast while not consuming nearly as much power as previous CPUs.


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kojetoje podgrejano... 30.10.2007. 00:23 #31612

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iz prethodnog citata je jasno da je smanjenom potrosnjom energije
smanjena i temperatura C2D procesora u odnosu na CD...
i da tu nastaje sva razlika u kvalitetu ova dva procesora
i nije mi jasno otkud ovoliko zaglupljivanja sa 32 il 64 bita
kad to nema veze sa zivotom!

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DaSickSyst Re: Re: Re: Najjednostavnije moguce 30.10.2007. 00:29 #31613

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:: Gresi
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:: :: Core Duo je takodje 64 bitni procesor kao i SVI procesori sa dva jezgra.Najjednostavnije receno Core Duo je nista drugo nego `ultra stedljivi` Core 2 Duo za laptop recunare
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Bas me zaintrigirala ova tema i malo sam guglao da nadjem nesto sto sam procitao pre skoro dve godine.


Intel Core Duo is a 64-bit chip

Yes, that Core Duo you have right now is a 64-bit chip. Intel openly admits that its Sossaman chips are 64-bit, but does not mention this fact about its consumer-targetted Yonah chips, despite the fact that the two are one in the same.

http://digg.com/hardware/Intel_Core_Duo_is_a_64-bit_chip


Intel hiding features from users?

It seems that the Intel Core Duo processors that are all the rage these days may be a little more powerful than Intel would have you know. Thanks to a little detective work, it s been discovered that the processors, deep down inside, are actually 64-bit compatible. Yes, that Core Duo you have right now is a 64-bit chip. Intel openly admits that its Sossaman chips are 64-bit, but does not mention this fact about its consumer-targetted Yonah chips, despite the fact that the two are one in the same. What consumer (or geek) would not want to play around with a 64-bit Linux distribution, or Windows 64-bit for that matter? Intel may just have some explaining to do.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/intel/intel-hiding-features-from-users-153822.php

PS.
Da sto se tice onoga da je Core Duo stedljivi C2D jesam pogresio.Astan izvinjenje tebi i svima za dezinformaciju.


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Lama ... 30.10.2007. 01:43 #31621

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Core Duo je 32 - bitni procesor sa 2 MB L2
Core 2 Duo je 64 - bitni procesor sa 2 ili 4 MB L2

Core Duo varijante:
Yonah ( 32 bit ) je namenjen desktop i notebook racunarima.
Sossaman ( 32 bit ) je namenjen serverima.

Neverovatno je koliko su ljudi tvrdoglavi. Ako Intel u zvanicnoj dokumentaciji navede da je generacija Core Duo procesora 32 - bitna i procesori se tako nude na trzistu, ne mozemo se pozivati na ` zute ` izvore kojima se prividja zavera.
Pozdrav.


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fan Sa wikipedie... 30.10.2007. 09:48 #31628

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Izgleda ovde ima dosta ljudi koji post-uju malo, a znaju mnogo, dok ima i obratnih slučajeva... Dual Core 32 bit, C2D 64bit - ako neko ne zna engleski

The Core brand refers to Intel`s 32-bit mobile dual-core x86 CPUs that derived from the Pentium M branded processors, which microarchitecture - an interim step between the Intel P6 and Core microarchitecture - emerged in parallel with the NetBurst (Intel P68) microarchitecture of the Pentium 4 brand, and was a precursor of the 64-bit Core microarchitecture of Core 2 branded CPUs. The Core comprised two branches: the Duo (dual-core) and Solo (Duo with one disabled core, which replaced the Pentium M brand of single-core mobile processor).

The Core brand was launched on January 5, 2006 by the release of the 32-bit Yonah core CPU - Intel`s first dual-core mobile (low-power) processor. Its dual-core closely resembled two interconnected Pentium M branded CPUs packaged as a single die (piece) silicon chip (IC). Hence, the 32-bit microarchitecture of Core branded CPUs - contrary to its name - had more in common with Pentium M branded CPUs than with the following 64-bit Core microarchitecture of Core 2 branded CPUs. Despite a major rebranding effort by Intel starting January 2006, some computers with the Yonah core continued to be marked as Pentium M.

In 2007, Intel began branding the Yonah core CPUs as Pentium Dual-Core intended for lower-end mobile only computers, unlike the 64-bit Core microarchitecture CPUs branded as Intel Core 2 Duo (for higher-end computers) and also as Pentium Dual-Core (for lower-end desktops only). In short, the Core brand refers to processors with the `mobile` derivative of 32-bit Intel P6 microarchitecture (preceding the Core microarchitecture), whereas the Intel Core 2 Duo brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture.


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Milance74 Alo! 30.10.2007. 12:16 #31634

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Alo jeste li vi normalni? Sta pricate? Pa nije era 64 bitnih procesora u Intelu pocela sa Core 2 Duo arhitekturom. Ja trenutno radim na ovome a vi pricajte sta hocete:
Brand Intel
Processors Type Desktop
Series Pentium D
Model BX80553925
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
Tech Spec
Core Presler
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Pentium D 925
Operating Frequency 3.0GHz
FSB 800MHz
L1 Cache 24KB+32KB
L2 Cache 2 x 2MB
Manufacturing Tech 65 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Hyper-Threading Support No
Virtualization Technology Support No
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
Voltage 1.225V-1.312V
Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included

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Lama ... 30.10.2007. 13:47 #31638

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4 Milance

::Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64
Ova poslednja oznaka ( EM64T ), koja ukazuje da je cpu 64 bit, ne postoji kod Core Duo procesora, a imaju je Pentiumi D, koje si naveo kao primer.

4 DaSickSystem

Ok, care. Imam predlog za tebe. Uzmi notebook sa Core Duo cpu,
pa lepo instaliraj 64 - bit Vistu ili XP. Ako uspes, znaces da si u pravu.
Ako ne uspes, znaci da Core Duo nije 64 bit i da nisi u pravu.
Veoma jednostavno resenje.

4 kojetoje

Zar je vazniji podatak da jedan procesor potrosi bateriju za 2h19min, a drugi 2h07min i pritom se ugreje za 5 stepeni vise, nego cinjenica da na jednom procesoru moze da se pokrene samo jedna vrsta OS???????

Pozdrav svima.

p. s.

http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/coreduo.htm
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm
Ako malo bolje pogledate, Core Duo chartu nedostaje Intel® 64±


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kojetoje ... 30.10.2007. 20:28 #31682

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veoma je vazno na kakvom opterecenju procesora je uradjen taj podatak
da je razlika svega 5 stepeni a trajanje baterije 12 min,
imam i koristim oba procesora i razlika je mnogo drasticnija,
pogotovo sto se tice temperature,
by the way oba su 64-bitna
i su smesni ljudi koji i dalje tvrde da coreduo nije 64-bitan
na kraju krajeva 64 bitni sistemi o softveri i dalje nemaju
upotrebljive verzije i svi se okrecu iskoriscavanju vise jezgara
sto podatak o 64 ili 32 bitnoj podrsci procesora cini beznacajnim


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Lama ... 30.10.2007. 22:25 #31696

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Ovo je cisto gubljenje vremena. Bez ljutnje, ali vas dvojica ( ili trojica ) ne razlikujete osnovne pojmove i nema svrhe da dalje diskutujemo i zbunjujemo coveka koji je postavio temu. Neka bude kako vi kazete, neka decko kupi 64 - bitni CD i udje u Ginisovu knjigu rekorda.
Pozdrav.

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